Do not receive direct-to-brain windows | Do receive direct-to-brain windows |
Do not receive direct-to-brain windows (see no windows or video squares in front of their eyes) | Do receive direct-to-brain windows (can see windows and video squares in front of their eyes) |
Can't see and hear video of people inside their houses | Can see and hear video of people inside their houses |
Can't remotely move the muscles of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains | Can remotely move the muscles of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains |
Can't hear ears (sounds of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains hear) | Can hear ears (sounds of what people, dogs, birds, cats, lizards, fish, and other species with brains hear) |
Can't see eyes (video of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains see) | Can see eyes (video of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains see) |
Can't hear thoughts (sounds of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains think) | Can hear thoughts (sounds of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains think) |
Can't see thoughts (images of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains think) | Can see thoughts (images of what people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains think) |
Can't remotely send sounds to the ears of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains | Can remotely send sounds to the ears of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains |
Can't remotely send images to the eyes of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains | Can remotely send images to the ears of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains |
Can't remotely send sounds to the thoughts of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains | Can remotely send sounds to the thoughts of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains |
Can't remotely send images to the thoughts of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains | Can remotely send images to the thoughts of people, dogs, cats, birds, lizards, fish, and other species with brains |
Have to masturbate | Never have to masturbate |
Probably have no sexual partner | Definitely have at least one sexual partner |
Probably will not reproduce | Probably will reproduce |
Last to be hired, first to be fired | First to be hired, last to be fired |
Earn low wages | Earn high wages |
Probably are poor | Probably are wealthy |
Don't get to receive dream videos while sleeping | Do get to receive dream videos while sleeping |
Have their muscles remotely moved by unseen insiders | Don't have their muscles remotely moved by unseen insiders |
Are made to itch by unseen insiders using particles | Are made to itch by unseen insiders using particles |
Are remotely sexually and nonsexually molested by unseen insiders using particles | Are not remotely sexually and nonsexually molested by unseen insiders using particles |
Can't buy ad time on radio for their song, and television through thought-net | Can buy ad time on radio for their song, and television through thought-net |
Can't get extra money through money-windows | Can get extra money through money-windows |
Can't be published | Can be published |
Can't be film, television, music or radio stars | Can be film, television, music or radio stars |
Can't buy ad time on radio for their song, and television through thought-net | Can buy ad time on radio for their song, and television through thought-net |
Outsiders | Insiders |
Excluded | Included |
Out | In |
Prey | Predators |
Tutsi | Hutu |
Watched | Watchers |
Stalked | Stalkers |
book readers | Neuron rapers |
Mostly tell the truth | Mostly have to lie |
Can talk about remote and direct neuron reading and writing | Mostly can't talk about remote or direct neuron reading or writing |
Watch television and cable | Don't watch television and cable |
Have to use Google and the Internet | Don't have to use Google and the Internet |
Will be sent terrible suggestions to do violence, sexually inappropriate actions | Will not be sent terrible suggestions to do violence, sexually inappropriate actions |
Will have no defense against suggestions written to their brain, probably will conclude voice is from God, not from wealthy to poor evil idiot neuron rape-writers | Will know that voice in head is not from God or naturally occurring, but is from neuron rape-writer |
On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:02:33 +0900, Yukiyasu Kamitani11/09/2009wrote: Dear Ted, Decoding of tones is definitely an interesting question, which someone might be trying already. I'm fine my comments are on the web or somewhere, except the following *****SENTENCE DELETED*********** since curious journalists would want to come to my lab to see our ongoing experiments but I want to have our results public only after we get solid evidence. Best, Yuki On 2009/04/20, at 18:41, ted@tedhuntington.com wrote: Dear Yukiyasu, Thank you for your very prompt reply. I have found Jack Gallant's 03/20/2008 Nature paper, and peered at some of the papers Gallant, et al, cite. I am documenting a history of science, and it appears so far that your 2008 paper may be the first to actually show a recognizable image captured by fMRI. I promise not to pester you, except to add for question 1) an interesting experiment might involve trying to decode various tones such as A 440 Hertz, etc, and one more request: is it ok for me to share your responses with the public? Very much looking forward to seeing how this fMRI technology evolves, Ted Quoting Yukiyasu Kamitani : Dear Ted, Thanks for your interest in our paper. I'll answer to your questions on behalf of the authors. 1) Do you plan next to try to capture and reproduce the sounds a brain hears from outside their body? For example, perhaps you will try to make a loud sound and detect a change in the MRI image? We do not have a specific plan for reconstructing sounds, but it's an interesting direction for future research. 2) Are you able to use fMRI to see not just the images from the outside universe that enter the eye, but images produced internally by the brain? For example dreams, or perhaps people can be told to visual shapes such as squares and triangles in their minds and the fMRI camera can record the image. Is this one of your research goals? ****DELETED SENTENCE: NOT ALLOWED FOR THE PUBLIC YET IN HONORING THE REQUEST OF YUKIYASU KAMITANI******** In theory, I believe there is a possibility, as the perception of external objects and internal imagery should share some common neural processes. 3) Similarly, are their plans to try and capture and reproduce the sounds produced internally by a brain - such as a song a person might remember in their mind? Do you think this will one day be possible if not already possible? we have done a preliminary study in which we tried to classify brain activity pattens by the syllables (e.g., 'po' vs 'go') the subject utters and just imagines. It was possible to some extent, but this is just to classy measured brain activity into a few classes according the syllables, and not reconstruction of sound. 4) Are you aware of any other people researching and making advances in this technology? Jack Gallant's group at Berkeley is working on a related topic using a different method. 5) Do you see a future mass market for portable MRI cameras that people can use to see each others eyes - and the eyes of their pets? Well, I would not deny the possibility. Big advances in MR or other technology would be necessary though. 6) Are you able to see the shapes and letters, such as those that spell the word "neuron" in the brain of every species that has a nervous system? Do you plan on testing to see "the eyes" of different species? In theory it should be possible if you can have an animal laid still in an MR scanner. It also matters how big the animal's brain is (it is easier to analyze a large brain). We do not have a plan for animal experiments, but some people might train monkeys to do a similar fMRI experiment in near future. 7) Are people required to take any chemical substance, such as barium sulfate, to allow the fMRI to see what eyes see, or does this work without having to take any material? no need for chemical agent generally fMRI. Best, Yuki ------------------------------------------ Yukiyasu Kamitani, Ph.D. ATR Computational Neuroscience Laboratories Email: kmtn@atr.jp URL: http://www.cns.atr.jp/dni/ ------------------------------------------ On 2009/04/20, at 6:48, ted@tedhuntington.com wrote: To authors of: "Visual Image Reconstruction from Human Brain Activity using a Combination of Multiscale Local Image Decoders" Miyawaki, Yoichi; Uchida, Hajime; Yamashita, Okito; Sato, Masa- aki; Morito, Yusuke; Tanabe, Hiroki C.; Sadato, Norihiro; Kamitani, Yukiyasu doi:10.1016/j.neuron.2008.11.004 (volume 60 issue 5 pp.915 - 929) Forgive me for taking up your time, I understand how precious time is. But a friend pointed me to your above paper in the Neuron journal of 12/10/2008, and I find this work very interesting and somewhat amazing. I have a few brief questions I want to ask the authors of this paper (Miyawaki, et al.): 1) Do you plan next to try to capture and reproduce the sounds a brain hears from outside their body? For example, perhaps you will try to make a loud sound and detect a change in the MRI image? 2) Are you able to use fMRI to see not just the images from the outside universe that enter the eye, but images produced internally by the brain? For example dreams, or perhaps people can be told to visual shapes such as squares and triangles in their minds and the fMRI camera can record the image. Is this one of your research goals? 3) Similarly, are their plans to try and capture and reproduce the sounds produced internally by a brain - such as a song a person might remember in their mind? Do you think this will one day be possible if not already possible? 4) Are you aware of any other people researching and making advances in this technology? 5) Do you see a future mass market for portable MRI cameras that people can use to see each others eyes - and the eyes of their pets? 6) Are you able to see the shapes and letters, such as those that spell the word "neuron" in the brain of every species that has a nervous system? Do you plan on testing to see "the eyes" of different species? 7) Are people required to take any chemical substance, such as barium sulfate, to allow the fMRI to see what eyes see, or does this work without having to take any material? Thanks and I look forward to seeing how this "seeing eyes" technology improves and becomes more minature and low cost for consumers to use and buy. I think that this opens the door to an entire new market for camera and robot devices to make life safer, easier and more fun. Ted Huntington